? Even if the servers are backdoored, your messages are still encrypted by your key - as long as the server didn’t manipulate the keys at the first exchange, which you can check by verifying the security code

If it matches, then it’s okay. Such features exist in all encrypted messenger apps

It’s still a shitty workaround

If people contact me, I can’t expect them to create a group…

You can easily verify the keys of the person you’re speaking with, and they’re generated locally… so technically speaking, even if their servers are leaking, your messages are still unreadable, but yea that’s not ideal

And then went back on it to advertise telegram lmao

Btw don’t use computers, Musk use them

I hope it gets multi device support and sync one day, in a way that just works

My first experience with it was that dark theme was bugged and the interface wasn’t intuitive

You’re not a dick at all! It seems a bit random. They’ve moved my VPS somewhere else and the issues are now more rare but still happen from time to time

What’s the thing you use to visualize the ping? I’d like to set it up myself to check as well

Just tried massiveGRID and their VPS have massive issues. They randomly halt for a second to 5 seconds and just stops responding to any call. Sometime I randomly see a packet with 1000ms to 2000ms with no reason, while CPU usage is under 10% and the server is basically idling (on a simple ping).

This shit happens every minute or so, it’s so annoying

Avoid.

Okay

removes pants

😉👀🧌

The hate is mainly because they run current anti consumer techniques, such as:

• infinite fake sales (illegal is most countries)
• misleading fear mongering (VPNs don’t bring much security at all, and aren’t the only tool you need to achieve anonymity at all. Most people don’t need a VPN.) but this has some positive impacts: normies use VPNs so they become more accepted
• ultra aggressive misleading marketing: occasionally, false claims are made through sponsorships

They are also in a country where they can legally not provide any info to anyone (also in case of legal problem I believe), but it is a double edged sword, as it also means they can lie and sell our info and will never get sued over it

Such things makes it hard to trust, but the reality is they’re most likely fine to use because they already make a ton of money. They probably won’t risk to lose a business over this.

I’ll add that their servers are a bit slow (I have a gigabit connection) and they don’t have a server in my country

Interesting option as well, but some problems :

• Not audited iirc
• Port forwarding leads to identification of the individual account, and facts about this aren’t really explained. They admitted than in case they receive a legal order against someone who has port forwarding, they must give the identity because they can get it.
  • Sure, changing ports frequently is a way around this but meh, I’d like to know what they will provide if that happens

Going to get hate for it (justified), but NordVPN

Reasons: low price, and someone I know already had an account.

Could switch but most VPNs don’t have what I’m looking for (port forwarding), as well as IPs that often change and a solid userbase to mask traffic in smaller websites

Tested mullvad a few years ago and had some small connection problems, but the main issue was that it wasn’t usable in many websites due to their IPs being really abused (+ blocked from streaming services).

Sadly, using small niche VPNs that might be more trusted makes you stand out more. It’s pretty unusual to have a Mullvad user on your server

They don’t rotate IPs as well so a lot of them are blacklisted… and don’t offer port forwarding anymore

I wish they could change IPs reguarly and add port forwarding back :-( - I would happily pay for their service again

Because 5€ for their current service is overpriced