Jesus. Another one of these? Every freaking day. (Promise it’s different)

I personally like mint and pop!os for new users, but for this user I want to try something windows like with more sex appeal. I don’t want to have to touch this computer again. Proprietary software is not an issue/consideration. User is techier than most. What has your experience been with kbuntu? Pros/cons? Other suggestions?

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    Every time I’ve tried Kubuntu it’s been a mess. Though it’s been a couple years since I subjected myself to it. It’s still going to use Snaps, so there’s that.

    If they want bulletproof and up to date, Fedora KDE.

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    I used to recommend Ubuntu. Now that immutable distributions exist, I prefer to recommend openSUSE Aeon or Fedora Silverblue to new users. However, check this website before installing Linux.

    https://endof10.org/

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      This site refers to “local repair cafés” more than once. Is that a regional thing? I’ve never seen those three words in that order ever before.

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    ZorinOS or the recent AnduinOS can be very Windows like with modernish windows sex appeal as you call it.

    Edit: If a gamer you could add Nobara with its own theme or bazzite with KDE.

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    You have had many answers, all of them revolving around Debian / Ubuntu. Yet it doesn’t give the “like-windows” esperience. It’s More like “slightly windows-flavored Linux”.

    For a more Windows-like Linux, which helped me transition easily because I retained muscle memory, is Zorin OS.

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      This may actually hinders new users because you can’t just change stuff on the system.

      And no, not everything always work out of the box. Fedora & OpenSUSE codecs, I’m looking at you.

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        I think you overestimate the average persons need to configure their computers. Most people just use a web browser, email, and maybe some light gaming. No one new to Linux is going to be really upset that they can’t do complex system operations on the command line.

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          No, but they’d be upset if they cannot play their usual media files. H265 is known to be absent by default on a lot of these distros.

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            I’ve never had a problem with any media playback. I don’t think this is an issue on Bazzite, the immutable distro I’ve been using for over a year.

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    Fedora Atomic (immutable OS), install one and you can swap between Atomic, Kinoite, Bazzite, and any other atomic distribution easily.

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    I’m personally a fan of Debian. Default KDE isn’t bad looking from what I can remember (I personally don’t use it - I neither hate or love it just because I love XFCE). I’m personally a big XFCE fan, but you do have to do some work to get it working good, and there are still jank parts here and there.

    While no distro is completely set and forget, I think Debian Stable is as close as you can get. Once you install it and get it working the way you want (depending on your setup, you might encounter minor issues as with any distro), it will pretty much stay that way until you upgrade to the next version, and you can go up to 5 years before upgrading.

    I would recommend you use the KDE (or whatever DE you want) live installer, though, as the default installer is quite unintuitive. You can find it in the list of installers at https://www.debian.org/distrib/.

    I’ve never used Kubuntu specifically, but I would personally avoid Ubuntu these days if just because of Snaps. Also, Ubuntu is heavily bloated - base Ubuntu is almost unusable in a VM now, while vanilla GNOME and PopOS run well in VMs on the same machine. Personally, when I need to test Ubuntu builds, I always prefer working with PopOS.

    Overall, I’d say if you don’t end up using Debian (I don’t blame you - while I like it, you might not), just please don’t use anything Ubuntu-based that isn’t Mint or PopOS.

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    I just switched to a ublue distro (bluefin) and think it’s great. These are designed from the ground up to be an “install it for a family member or friend and never have to touch it again” experience. They are based on Fedora. Bluefin has been the most trouble-free install of linux I’ve ever tried. I can’t say enough good things about it.

    I would go with Aurora (essentially bluefin but with KDE instead of Gnome), unless they do a lot of gaming, in which case Bazzite-kde would probably work best (bazzite is more up-to-date which can mean more instability).

    These are set up to use flatpak with a software center, so all gui apps can be installed from there and is similar to windows. It updates everything automatically in the background and only requires rebooting whenever you want to switch to the updated system. Also the immutable nature makes it hard to break, but if something does go wrong it makes it easy to roll back to the previous working install. There are also GTS versions of bluefin and aurora available, which are pinned to more stable releases so there’s even less chance of breakage.

    Live USB installs aren’t stable yet so that might be an issue if you want to make sure hardware works before install, but you can install to a usb harddrive and boot off of that to check it out that way.

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      Agreed. For a new user that wants to minimise system maintenance I’d recommend the atomic version, Fedora Kinoite. Flatpak plus rpm-ostree makes it like a phone where you can just do system updates and install/remove apps.

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    Well there are no operating systems that you can install and forget, unless they never plan to go online with the machine. They all need updating which can be set automatically. The only problem is if it requires manual intervention, sometimes updates don’t go as planned, then a roll-back might be necessary. They could try an immutable linux distribution if they are worried about screwing up their installs or something. Fedora kinoite may be their thing, or Bazzite which is based on that.

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      The embedded IoT crowd would like to refute your claim that there are no operating systems that you can install and forget.

      The collective would like to stress that any operating system can be installed and forgotten. Please note, that usefulness and security may be impacted.

      /s

      Also, to be technical there is CollapseOS which is an install once and forget sort of thing.

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    Debian is always the forgotten choice. You can install kde at time of install. It’s stable and can be upgraded in the background automatically even between major versions. Doesn’t have snaps making hell for the user. For any apps they need the newest version of Flatpak is right there in Discover software center.

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    Focus on the DE instead of the distro. There used to be one that has “windows look” as a goal.

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      I’m pretty sure that’s Zorin. I’ve never used it myself, but from what I’ve heard it might be a good choice for OP’s person.

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          I wasn’t aware that there’s a paid version. Based on their website it does look like they have a lot of standard stuff locked behind Pro. Is it just like an additional repo or something? I’m also not too keen on the fact that the upgrade doesn’t carry over to the next major version.

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              I disagree with you however I find it attrocious than when you upgrade (exemple from ZorinOS 16 to 17) if you own a Pro licence you have to buy a new licence (with a discount) and can’t “downgrade” to non-Pro (except from reinstalling it from scratch). I think the way the Pro is sold shouldn’t put upgrade behind a paywall.

              Selling a (bloated) Pro version to bring cash isn’t necesseraly cancer it really depend on what you get and how you’re treated. And with ZorinOS I was somewhat disapointed…

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    If you want a set it and forget it distro to never touch his computer again, then consider going a Ublue distro. Aurora (only KDE), or Bazzite (choose the KDE image) if he does gaming.