Just installed GOS on my phone, really like it. I want to know how GOS users setup their profiles to learn from them. So far, i found out the followings:
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everything in Owner
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leave Owner blank. Put everything in another profile names User.
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leave Owner blank. Put all Google stuff in user Google. Put all FOSS app in FOSS user. Put all bank stuff under Sensitive user.
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use Owner as an app repo. So install Google Play, Acrescent, Fdroid. Install apps from there, but dont use them. Instead, when create new user, push those apps from Owner. This is similar to Side of Burritos on Youtube.
anything different?
This thread is illuminating and makes my GOS use feel very pedestrian. I just use a single profile, I keep everything off my default and only enable what I need when I need it (GPS for instance which is rare) and then disable again, and I have no accounts logged in to anything on my phone.
You might also consider the new private space feature depending on your needs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G94V5I2xH1E
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PrivacyI have all of my open source apps in my main profile, a Shelter profile for proprietary apps (which I hardly use nowadays), a user profile for apps needed for my university, and another user profile for apps needed for a certain gig I’ve been involved with
I have the main owner profile for my main Foss apps then the work profile for apps that need the play store. I normally leave my work profile paused and unpause it when I need to use an app. None of the apps in the work profile require notifcations so its fine.
Some mangled gargoyle looking shit that I cobbled together some time ago.
Owner profile for main use, shelter w play services for apps that need them.
I also keep a Duress pin enabled which i have written down inside the phones case, so if Anyone “finds” my phone and tries to unlock it they will just end up wiping it.
The downside of letting someone wipe your phone is they can then sell the phone. It’s a lot harder to pawn a “found” phone if it is locked.
You can always wipe it without the duress pin
Doesn’t a stock android need to unlocked before it can be wiped? I doubt if GOS would remove that security feature.
One profile on a 6a. If I had a Google account, I would likely have a second profile.
Most apps come from Github through Obtainium, I also use F-Droid, and a few get updated from Aurora Store.
I noticed a month ago that some apps aren’t being updated in Accrescent - Fdroid had a more up-to-date version for a few apps. I heard they have a funding issue which is probably why. Just something to be aware of.
The apps I have on board, that aren’t privacy respecting, either have their network access blocked or are disabled until I need them. These are Amazon Shopping, Roamless (data esim), and Sound Connect (Sony BT headphones).
No Google account but I do run Sandboxed Google Play for the notifications. Only two apps use the notifications through SGP - Signal and Protonmail but of which have taken steps to conceal the contents of the message from Google.
I have a Duress pin set. If being brute forced, the pin I set will likely be entered before my real pin and wipe the phone.
I mostly use a fingerprint for unlock so no one can see my pin while in public spaces. I also avoid unlocking if anyone is too close to me.
Phone stays in airplane mode most of the time to avoid cell tower triangulation. Using a voip phone service makes it possible to make and receive phone calls without cell towers being involved. My voip provider is very kyc but I do plan on switching to JMPChat soon.
Reboot is set for 8 hours.
If I disable the microphone I can never enable it quick enough to answer an incoming call so don’t turn it off system-wide but do deny for apps that don’t need it.
Disabling the camera permission system-wide has forced me to wait a very long time, after enabling the permission, before I can take a photo. I leave this permission on and just deny for apps that don’t need it.
I typically connect to public and home wifi so I leave this on.
My headphones are bluetooth (I can’t stand using a cable) so BT stays on.
Global PS is an incoming signal so I leave this on. GOS is transmitting a ton of data to Google so I don’t see the risk. Doesn’t seem to drain much power. Only really needed for my map app.
I have 7 profiles
- owner - network setup and app management (mullvad vpn)
- Daily - no google services and 95% of my daily usage app (always on VPN to my home)
- GPS - navigation and other apps that need location services (mullvad vpn)
- PS-USA - playstore account and google services with USA identity (fake of course), (US residential VPN for sports streaming)
- PS-CH - playstore account switzerland and google play services, my banking stuff lives here (residential vpn CH)
- PS-DE - playstore account germany and google play services (mullvad vpn) - used for apps not available in US and CH when traveling through Germany
- NOVPN - this account only has vanadium and connectbot (ssh) for network diagnostics in case I have issues with a wifi or something. My only account without always on VPN
hmm i really like the idea of navigation apps with location service in 1 profile. So you just dont listen/stream music while driving? Because thats another app right?
Also thats a lot of vpns lol.
I usually listen to radio while driving, I am kinda old school there.
Also, I think having some commercial service like Spotify or TuneIn track my taste in music, radio stations or podcasts is an invasion of my privacy. I actually selfhost an internet radio service if you wanna call it that by running a DVB-C tuner on my homeserver that grabs my favorite channels from my cable provider and streams them to my phone on demand if I wanna listen to radio on the go.
Everything in owner because I don’t understand the implications well enough to do otherwise (so thanks for the thread).
Same. I need to step my game up! Profiles don’t look that hard, just something to learn 🙂
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Got 7 profiles actually.
- is the owner of course.
- Then I have my main profile.
- A untrusted profile. Shady apps cracked apps etc. This profile also is not allowed to run in the background.
- Then my finance profile. Has my banking apps and such.
- A testing profile. Used to test backups of grapheneos and such.
- A work profile. Dont need that to run in the background either. But is useful to stay in touch over the weekends.
- And a private profile.
This way I can still use all my apps. While not requiring google play in all my profiles. Also being able to disable certain things for profiles is super useful. Running in the background, allowed to make/receive calls to name a few
I have everything in Owner profile (including Sandboxed Google Play)
Currently everything in owner, with banking apps in my private space.
I was tempted by the idea of owner as an app repo but the private space is only available in the owner profile.
Someone else in this thread mentioned they were using another device for their app repo and sideloading from there. That’s an intriguing idea for keeping even sandboxed Google off my owner profile. An idea for the future maybe.
do you use a different Google account to download the bank app? or no Google at all in private space, and instead push an app downloaded from main?
A different google account in the private space.
Everything in Owner and a secondary phone for all proprietary work and communication apps. The secondary phone is powered off or at least disconnected once I leave work. Google stuff and banking through a computer browser whenever possible.
If I were forced to use only one phone, the secondary phone’s contents would be on a secondary profile. This used to be my setup but switching between profiles throughout the day wasn’t my thing.
