I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to say here, but shit was definitely just as bad in 2004. If you were around then, you should know. Shit has sucked here for a long time.

You’re right that shit was also bad in 2004. But at that time, ICE had only existed for less than a year, so they were not the ones who were the Gestapo at the time. That was Homeland security, the DEA, and the FBI. In fact, homeland security was also extremely new, so it was mostly just the FBI, the DEA, and, degree, the NSA.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying that ice wasn’t really fully formed as an agency in 2004 like it is today, so if anyone was the Gestapo, they were probably not it. Not in 2004.

It’s so fast, that nobody can afford it. If more than five people have it, it’s because they are the billionaires that owned the network.

That’s why it’s so amazing, you won’t have it for 20 years.

OK… We all knew this in 2004.

Is it suddenly more outrageous now?